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Poster: echos71 Date: Apr 20, 2011 9:42am
Forum: etree Subject: Phish?

Hello all,

Ive been using this site for quite some time to stream music at work. For some reason it sneaks by all the blocked page filers. You guys have some great music up here but why no phish. From what I gather their non commercial released stuff is allowed to be traded and shared?

IF this was asked a thousand times sorry I couldnt find it in the forums.

Thanks
Mike

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDetective John Carter of Mars Date: Apr 20, 2011 3:11pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Phish?

http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#137

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Poster: trevtdogg Date: Apr 22, 2011 12:07am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Phish?

just out of interest but the 2 links for phish and WP responses seem to be dead links, any chance they can be fixed?

phish one gives:
Item cannot be found.

WP gives:
The item is not available due to issues with the item's content.

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Poster: CharlieMiller Date: Apr 24, 2011 6:49pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Phish?

I know Mike Gordon from having worked with him. I contacted him requesting permission to have audience recordings from his band (Mike Gordon Band) hosted on the Live Music Archive. He responded to me and CC'd someone who I assume is from his legal department asking them to handle it. We're still in process of getting things figured out.

I know it's not Phish, but it's help.

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Poster: MooseMan9 Date: Apr 27, 2011 1:00pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Phish?

Hey Charlie, if you know and have direct access to Mike & crew why not ask Kevin Shapiro? Ultimately, and quite literally the buck stops there right?

From my somewhat inside/outside perspective I'd gather the ultimate reason that Phish isn't a part of archive is because the bands management is deathly afraid of it cutting into the "official" Live Phish downloads and that revenue stream. Hogwash IMO. There's a place for both.

Strikes me as odd that a band who more or less built their entire career from touring and being filler on Dead tapes would turn their noses at what's more or less the modern version of "old school tape trading" but what do I know?!? Besides its not like there aren't dozens of other sites where audience tapes are widely available. What gives?

I guess that ultimately Carini was dead on... he usually was. But again, its not the band... they're all super cool cats. Its the folks behind the band...

If you want to follow up here drop me a line via email. We likely know some of the same people. It'd be interesting. mooseaudio@aim.com

Peace!

This post was modified by MooseMan9 on 2011-04-27 20:00:07

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffgreenone Date: Apr 28, 2011 5:30am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Phish?

Why not ask Kevin Shapiro?

We have on a few occasions and the answer has been a polite but definite no.

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Poster: MooseMan9 Date: Apr 28, 2011 1:00pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Phish?

Well that's a bummer. As said its not like the audience recordings aren't already floating around the internet. For instance on nugs.net or via bittorrent which IMO is inherently evil and bad... not a very clean transfer method no matter how its sliced. Just two of the dozens of places I've seen shows. I wonder if anyone in their camp is aware of those facts? Why not embrace the good at archive? At least its clean here. No viruses or bad stuff.

Not like I have a dog in the fight either way... any Phish in my collection is either old cassette tapes (don't even have a deck anymore!) from way way back when or super hi-fi stuff gathered through official channels that I wouldn't put out anyway. Some material isn't for "trading" period.

I just know how much it means to a lot of people...

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Poster: MooseMan9 Date: Apr 28, 2011 2:52pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Phish?

FWIW my thoughts on Phish are the same as any other band that allows taping and sells "taper tickets" but won't be a part of archive... Mule for example. Seems hypocritical... doesn't compute.

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Poster: megalomani Date: Apr 13, 2012 7:09pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Phish?

There actually has been post by the band regarding this decision and it seems reasonable. By allowing their recordings on the archive it becomes public domain. This means the band looses ownership of their own work. Currently they allow taping and transfer of the recordings person-to-person but not on a centralized 3rd party forum.

While I appreciate the archive and ease of access to live recordings these days, I do miss the personal connections that came with trading tapes. Much of the community has been lost in this sense by digitization.

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Poster: zeroenvy Date: Apr 20, 2011 12:59pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Phish?

Same with black crowes, whats up?